but there was a particular sort of outrage, the outrage was from the right, the idea that sarah palin and by the way a woman obviously was being attacked was part of the outrage and the campaign that just did not quit. >> i wonder if you think these sorts of cases are proxior broader political fights that we have now for conservatives in the media as well as in the political arena? >> i think there's no doubt. but what concerns me about this issue is two things, consistency and hypocrisy, because you have these cable news anchors who to make waves and to be successful, they have to push the envelope in terms of how they talk about these issues. then when they cross a line, there's no sense of what's the procedure for disciplining them? who else made the decision to allow this to be aired and why haven't they been punished? msnbc resisted taking any responsibility for what he said and finally he resigns and there's no sense of account bltd, what other producers were involved. msnbc should have admitted he made a mistake and sub -- everybody know where is the lines are. >> let's put up